Talk:Thylacine

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Thylacine article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1, 2: 12 months

Thylacine is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so.

This article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on December 29, 2008.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
November 28, 2006	Peer review	Reviewed
December 2, 2006	Featured article candidate	Promoted

Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on September 7, 2010, September 7, 2011, September 7, 2012, September 7, 2016, September 7, 2017, September 7, 2022, and September 7, 2024.

Current status: Featured article

Australia: Tasmania / Biota High‑importance

	Australia portal Thylacine is within the scope of WikiProject Australia, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Australia and Australia-related topics. If you would like to participate, visit the project page.AustraliaWikipedia:WikiProject AustraliaTemplate:WikiProject AustraliaAustralia
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Tasmania (assessed as High-importance).
	This article is supported by WikiProject Australian biota (assessed as High-importance).
	Need help improving this article? Ask a Librarian^{What's this?} at the National Library of Australia, or the State Library of Tasmania.
	The Wikimedia Australia chapter can be contacted via email to helpwikimedia.org.au for non-editorial assistance.

Papua New Guinea

	New Guinea portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Papua New Guinea, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Papua New Guinea on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Papua New GuineaWikipedia:WikiProject Papua New GuineaTemplate:WikiProject Papua New GuineaPapua New Guinea
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the importance scale.

Mammals: Monotremes and Marsupials Mid‑importance

	Mammals portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Mammals, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of mammal-related subjects on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.MammalsWikipedia:WikiProject MammalsTemplate:WikiProject Mammalsmammal
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Monotremes and Marsupials (assessed as Mid-importance).

Extinction High‑importance

	This article is a part of WikiProject Extinction, an attempt at creating a standardized, informative, comprehensive and easy-to-use resource on extinction and extinct organisms. If you would like to participate, you can choose to edit this article, or visit the project page for more information.ExtinctionWikipedia:WikiProject ExtinctionTemplate:WikiProject ExtinctionExtinction
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the importance scale.

Cryptozoology High‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Cryptozoology, an attempt to improve coverage of the pseudoscience and subculture of cryptozoology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.CryptozoologyWikipedia:WikiProject CryptozoologyTemplate:WikiProject CryptozoologyCryptids
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

On 9 April 2025, it was proposed that this article be moved to Tasmanian Tiger. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Archives

Archive 1

Archive 2

This page has archives. Sections older than 360 days may be automatically archived by when more than 5 sections are present.

Conflict with Endlings

The current section about the last captive thylacine - which says the animal was female - is confusing and appears to contradict Endling#Mammals in regard to details such as the gender of the animal, and the name of the trapper who caught it. The Endlings article quotes a 2023 review which concludes that the last Hobart zoo thylacine was male.[1] Muzilon (talk) 00:56, 6 March 2024 (UTC) Muzilon (talk) 00:19, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Although both articles now seem confident that the last captive thylacine was male, it might be better to say that the matter remains contested. This source, also from 2023, argues that it was female, based on the researchers’ discovery of her probable remains. Jeminids1 (talk) 16:16, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 10 June 2024

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

The thylacine died out in New Guinea and mainland Australia around 3,600–3,200 years ago, prior to the arrival of Europeans, possibly because of the introduction of the dingo, whose earliest record dates to around the same time, but which never reached Tasmania. Although research by a team at Adelaide University suggest that Dingoes had little to do with the mainland extinction of the Thylacine or other fauna and other factors were largely to blame. https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/news/2013/09/dingoes-cleared-of-mainland-extinctions/ Leigh1967 (talk) 01:58, 10 June 2024 (UTC), Not done Undue for the lead sentence, this issue is adequately discussed in the body. Hemiauchenia (talk) 02:27, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Endling article conflict

The endling article directly contradicts the information about the last surving specimen, such as how it was caught, by whom etc. It appears to cite a study from 2023 which was undertaken to learn more about the last specimen. Should this not be corrected, or at least discussed? 81.109.89.141 (talk) 01:03, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Uh, I made exactly that point on this Talk page a couple of months ago (scroll up). That's why I added "contradiction" tags to the pertinent sections of both articles. Muzilon (talk) 01:29, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

palawa kani word

Looks like this one escaped but the decision was made (wisely) to remove the palawa kani word for thylacine from the headline but not from the text of the article. Invokris (talk) 09:34, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

National Threatened Species Day

These two sentences are poorly worded, I am unable to tell if it means the day has been celebrated since 1996 or if it has been celebrated on the 7th of September since 1996. The source makes it clear what is correct but the sentence needs to be rewritten to be more clear. Traumnovelle (talk) 01:16, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 12 November 2024

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

Under the subheading ‘ Last of the species’ I would suggest the change “ The animal, a male,” to “ The animal, a female “ due to the findings of the 2022 audit of its remains. This change might necessitate some word changes in the Frank Darby section, such as “… Darby was referring to was a male at Hobart Zoo” for example.

As per the research of Robert Paddle and and Kathryn Medlock^[1], and your listed reference #117. Thank you for considering this request. 60.240.229.154 (talk) 08:33, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: It is preferred that people specify the reference name instead of the number. Reference numbers change if a new reference is added before it in the article. Shadow311 (talk) 01:57, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done, I also updated the source for you Cmrc23 ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ 09:22, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://www.tmag.tas.gov.au/whats_on/newsselect/2022articles/thylacine_mystery_solved_in_tmag_collections

Requested move 9 April 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Frost 11:43, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thylacine → Tasmanian Tiger – Per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:PRECISE. Additionally a bunch of sources mention "Tasmanian Tiger" as shown in recent sources here. 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk · contribs) 07:05, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If this does get moved, it should definitely be to Tasmanian tiger, with tiger being lowercase, as in Javan tiger and Japanese otter, etc. Recon rabbit 14:57, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose NGRAM suggests that the name "Thylacine" has historically been and still is more common than "Tasmanian tiger" [2] Hemiauchenia (talk) 15:28, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Per Hemiauchenia's comment. The Morrison Man (talk) 16:35, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose It's certainly the less WP:PRECISE name of the two (not sure where that idea came from), and the above common usage stats also support the current setup. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 17:39, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - not the most commonly used name. FunkMonk (talk) 19:29, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - it's completely unrelated to tigers, and there's no need to perpetuate an old colonial-era misnomer. Bahudhara (talk) 00:44, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - search "Tasmanian wolf" on a search engine.Anthropophoca (talk) 01:54, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I get that that is another alternative name for the thylacine, but what does that name have to do with moving this page to Tasmanian Tiger? 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk · contribs) 07:14, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - per Hemiauchenia's comment + the name "thylacine" is the much more precise than Tasmanian tiger or Tasmanian wolf.

Junsik1223 (talk) 13:29, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - Makes zero sense, the terms Tasmanian Tiger and Tasmanian wolf are thrown around but have no bearing here. These names describe the animals superficial appearance. The word Thylacine is more accurate common name (However it is a anglicized version of the scientific name). Also, the word Thylacine appears far more in the literature than Tasmanian Tiger (which has only seen a recent uptake in use) --Bubblesorg (talk) 19:19, 15 April 2025 UTC)
Oppose - The extinct marsupial is called the thylacine, and "Tasmanian tiger" is merely one of several popular nicknames for the species (actually, I'd say tha Tasmanian wolf was more popular than Tasmanian tiger when I was growing up). If one types "Tasmanian tiger" it redirects one to the "Thylacine" page, anyhow, so there literally is no good reason to change the article's name to something that is not the correct name of the animal. AuH2ORepublican (talk) 03:46, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

[1] ttps://www.tmag.tas.gov.au/whats_on/newsselect/2022articles/thylacine_mystery_solved_in_tmag_collections

[1]